This is probably either (1) a really stupid question or (2) one of those questions that, along with "where did Cain's wife come from?" we're just not supposed to ask. I actually did ask the below (and preceding) question in my ladies Bible study group, which were met with assorted clucks and variations on the passive-aggressive "I'll pray for you," which we all know is nice Christian speak for "you are a total moron."
Why did Jesus think that God abandoned him?
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THAT IS NOT A STUPID QUESTION. Those were just stupid people responding to a good question stupidly. I will pray for them. :)
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Hope it helps a little. Jesus was both fulfilling prophecy and bearing all sin for us on the cross. Because He lived the perfect life and fulfilled scripture, somehow, he was able to make it possible for our sins to be forgiven. Elsewhere in the OT it notes that without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins.
How does all this work? Not sure exactly. Hopefully someone who knows a bit of theology will pop on and give me the answer as well.
God did abandon him.I think your ladies are morons. When Jesus took the mantle of our sin upon himself God turned away because God cannot look upon sin. Jesus was simply stating a fact [& quoting psalm 22]
I think too often those of us raised in the church accept what we're taught without thinking it through. I think asking questions & expecting reasonable well thought out answers is good.
WRT Cain's wife, I cannot offer you a good answer, because the Bible doesn't TELL us where Cain's wife came from. All that Genesis 4 tells us is that Cain 'knew' his wife (i.e. had sexual relations with her). Since the Bible mentions her only in passing, one can only deduce that God doesn't consider her important enough to give us more background information. Genesis 4 mainly focuses on the story of Cain & Abel, along with the lessons that tragic episode teaches. Knowing where Cain's wife came from isn't necessary to that end.
I re-read your post, and realized that the Cain's wife question was an example-duh! WRT your real question, Ganeida's remarks are on target; I have nothing else to add.
I remember in grade school asking the nuns "so you mean Adam and Eve's sons married their sisters?" To which the class responded with a universal, "ewwwwwwwwww!"
Jesus was God in human form. I believe that was his humanity crying out. It's human nature to assume that God has abandoned us when we're in the midst of trials, and that was the ultimate trial.
As for the women's responses to you, I can tell you exactly what that was about: They didn't know the answer. You see, often when Christians don't know the answers, they act all shocked that someone would even think to ask that! Seriously.
My husband is youth minister at our church. We've taught the youth for years, and I also used to teach high school and middle school English. Our method has always been to tell the students honestly if we don't know the answer to something, but we'll try to find the answer for them. They tend to have respect for that response. I don't know why other people are unwilling to admit that they don't know all the answers. I think people feel embarrassed or something because they think they should know.
WELL, all that makes sense! Thanks!
And Mark, I agree - where the wife comes from isn't really relevant.
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